I still think two more weeks or more is still way too long for something vaguely hinted at. we all just want simple straight forward english plain answers to this growing pile of angry sony product customers who lets face it feel ripped off already by now any way. !!!  give us all answers and right now as we demand it so make it happen now to make amends or carry on loosing customers daily to your rival companies!!! We are not being dramatic or asking for blood are we so make our products do what they are designed to flaming well do!! and dont ignore us either with silence like cowards from your ivory empire towers built by our money to put you there!!  so grow some large ones and answer us straight.... what say any one else on here? ...

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I remember a time in the not too distant past when family and friends would think I was mad at the premium price I had paid but also be envious and jealous of my collection of Sony AV equipment including topline DVD players , the excellent Trinitron TV,s ( 3 of them ) Home Cinema , minidisc players , VCR's , the list goes on .

Then Sony was probably the biggest and one of the most respected High Tech companies in the world , but alas complacency set in , hardware quality went down the toilet , I know I bought the disastrous KDL 40 W4500 TV for almost €1500 which is now used as a 3rd TV in a spare bedroom as it is almost unwatchable and I couldn't sell it even if I tried.  Then Sony became so obsessed with restricting their own customers that legitamately purchased their products from actually using them freely by inflicting the likes of the horrendous Sonicstage and DRM etc that they completely took their eye off the ball and allowed the likes of Samsung and Apple steal most of their TV and portable music player business , it is no wonder that Sony is now only a fraction of the size it was just a few short years ago , you appear to be fighting the tide  but unless you row in with what YOUR Customers actually want the same tide will drown you .

Now we have the latest saga of Sony's so called Smart TV services ahere onc e again you fail to give people want THEY want . I recently bought 2 Bluray players in the mistaken belief that maybe you had awoken from your slumber and what do I find , you give obscure services like Golflink, Billabong and that "Detective" channel. I live in Ireland , where is RTE, Lovefilm, Netflix ( yes that Netflix ) services , it has come to the stage where Sony is fast becoming a digital version of The Emperors New Clothes except nobody is laughing anymore.

As a lifelong fan of Sony and as sorry as I am to say it I have now made the concious decision as I am sure many others have not to purchase any more Sony products until you get your act act together. Please sort yourselves out both in the TV hardware reliability area and in the area of Smart services before you go the way of Betamax yourselves

It's really frustrating for the consumer to have to purchase different products for services.

Youvue is in the pipeline which I believe incorporates all ondemand UK channels (not films) so the nearest product that meets this currently is BT Vision and Virgin.

I don't want to have to flick between different products, it should be simple.

Btw Lovefilm is not that great, really disaapointed. I get more up to date films choices on BT Vision. I hope Netflix has more choice with current releases.

But I really hope the ambition from Sony  is to have a package of all the free ondemand channels - ITV, BBC, 4OD and Five within regions that have rights.  Plus a decent movies on demand service.

From working within the industry I have heard a few things on the grapevine.

2011 & earlier TVs & BR are likely not to get netflix on. I haven't been informed as to the whole reasons but it is stemming from processing power. I'm hoping to get a few more details tomorrow when our inside man comes in to advise on things going forward. From seeing this on the Samsung D7000/D8000 TVs then Netflix is sluggish compared to lovefilm in terms of navigation ... So could potentionally be true.

Better news is that it's most certainly coming to the n200 box, potentially the hx923 tv and slight possibility the ex320 TVs. The unofficial line on the grapevine has advised the official internal statement from Sony is that any device that has the HD iPlayer (n200 currently has this) then it will get Netflix.

For items that have this then they are not being directly replaced until at least IFA in September. What will becoming (which I'm lead to believe will be announced / clarified when Sony UK confirm the Netflix situation) is more content coming for these devices along the lines of sports.

No confirmations about itv or 4od as of yet despite many requests.

As mentioned earlier - I'm hoping to scoop a few more bits of information tomorrow & be able to report back.

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