Just thought I'll let you guys know that Sony are releasing a short guide with suggested setting changes to change/lower the fan noise of the SA/SB series.
I got a chance to test it today, and in my opinion, I see no real change at all and I think it actually affects performance even though they claim it doesn't.
Apparently it will be available on this forum somwhere in the next few days so I hope some others can give updates and feedback on whether you've noticed any changes in fan noise or if you've noticed any drops in performance.
Hi all,
I'm sorry to hear about the issues of overheating and fan noise you encountered with the SA. I have been looking for a new laptop for a while now and I was actually just about to order my SA when I read your thread. Now, I'm not so sure though - what is the point of spending 1600 Euro for a high-end machine if it overheats and if the only advice is to not open the lid too much (more than 90 degrees) or eventually change the settings if it lowers the performance?
If I'm going to spend that much money then I really want a reliable stable and good machine, which I always found Vaio to be (I'm a loyal Vaio customer for many years), but now I'm just not sure - who wants noisy fans, overheating, and lids that can't be opened more than 90 degrees?
I just want to hear if the issue have been solved for you guys and if Sony setting recommendations have helped with the problem
Thanks for letting me know
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Hi all,
I spoke to SONY yesterday (Sony Viao Link) on the phone.
I wanted an update on their thoughts before I send off my machine for them to checkout. I asked them if by now there were enough complaints for it to be getting to a recall stage and explained the screen hinge covering the (what i think is) the graphics card exhaust. They said that they cant simply consider it a design fault with (for example) 50 complaints and that they would need to examine each machine.
So I'll be sending mine off at the end of next week.
I have to say though that in the cooler weather that we have had recently the fan activity and thus noise hasnt been quite as extreme as it was when i first got the machine, but its still very poor.
I already played around with the settings using one of the Sony Viao preinstalled apps and put the machine into 'Silent' mode. It doesnt seem tot have made a world of difference.
To be clear about what this problem is though - this fan noise only happens when running graphic intensive tasks like running simple (2004) 3d games, multi-monitor (external and notebook screen) or firing up on occasion youtube on a web browser etc. Therefore I am personally convinved its to do with firstly the graphics card and its installation/positioning in the system.
From what i understand this seems to be affecting the custom spec SA's more than the off the shelf specs. The SB,s come with a AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6470M 512MB installed and i wonder if this downgrade is why they arent needing to use the fan so intensively?just my thoughts anyhow.
Whats so frustrating is the machine performs and looks fantastic if it werent for this unbearable fan noise.
I'll keep you posted with updates.
Phil
If I was you, don't waste your time with this machine unless your willing the withstand the constant noise of the fans when you start doing basic things like browsing the Internet.
After speaking to people internally from Sony, they don't think this is an issue as they expect it for such high powered machines. They believe I am just creating a problem.
The recommended settings are useless in my opinion but strangely, they haven't released yet for everyone to give their comments. The settings from my experience, impact performance yet the machine is nearly as loud as before.
I don't think now, the laptop overheats as all of us mention and I think Sony has meant it to get as warm as it does which I feel is stupid and obvious a design flaw which they are too embarassed to admit.
I had the SB before this SA (this was before they introduced the SA)and every part if the spec is the same but the screen resolution. I found it was a lot quieter except for when doing some demanding task so in my opinion, the screen is doing something or it's specific to the SA series Vaios.
Apparently, the Vaio Z series is worse than the S series and fan noise is actually mentioned in nearly all review and usually reviewers don't tend to pick up on things like this which is concerning.
I was going to to get this Vaio instead but I don't want a repeat of S series.
I am now returning my SA as I can't stand it any longer.
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My Vaio is a custom spec. model/CTO but I got mine from the Sony Online store. They don't take returns on CTO Vaios but I pretty much gave them no option as I was fed up with them telling me how to use my Vaio and there are advertised images contracting what they were saying.
Sadly Sony Stores are third party/separate from Sony and they're basically resellers. If you can't get them to return it, try seeing if Sony would reimburse for this laptop by speaking to their escalations dept.
That is how my refund was authorised after several weeks.
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This is also the case for me, I've only had the Vaio S a month, having picked it up at Singapore Airport as an emergency because my other laptop blew up while I was away.
In the first week or two, this was not too noticeable, However, now within 10 minutes of me starting up the laptop it heats to a very high temperature and the fan is extremely loud, too loud to be acceptable as 'normal'. I will also try contacting Sony to see if they will collect mine to look at. I'm worried about the health of the laptop with the overheating, especially since it is heating up at the most simplest of tasks. It feels like a design fault since the hinge of the screen is actually blocking the vent considerably and I do not want to accept that I need to have the screen partially open in order to cool it, surely that can't be fair when the Vaio isn't exactly a cheap laptop. I'm interested to see what Sony propose/suggest after they have collected your Vaio's to look at.
Hi sazzle78,
If yours was functioning fine the first two weeks and now it doesn't, then perhaps the fan got full with dust or something?
My vaio is now at the sony repair shop and they called me to say that they are going to change the motherboard and ventilator. I hope this will solve the problem. They have to order the components so I have to wait another week or more.
Ray1090
My vaio SA is back from repair and it still has the same high temperatures, but I guess 60 degrees in idle is normal voor Sandy Bridge processors. A good thing since the repair is that my vaio does not crash anymore if I play a game and it reaches a steady temperature of 96 degrees Celsius (you do feel the keys on the right side of the laptop get hot).
The fan is still very loud when the system is stressed. I guess I just have to buy some good closed headphones..
Hi Guys,
I am waiting for my CTO SA to arrive soon but I am a bit worried about these overheating and fan noise issues. Did yoiu get any positive action from Sony regarding these?
I can not talk about other countries, but people who bought this in UK can go on a small claims track if the product is not fit for purpose. "Customisation" clause in Sony's terms and conditions is a "shame" clause as by adding extra RAM or asking for a different operating system is very unlikely to be classed as unique product which was produced for you personally. Engraving may be a bit difficult to prove though.
Phil, same as above applies to the shop where you bought the SA from, I would suggest that if you are still having problems, think seriously about the above.
No, Sony did nothing positive.
They kept claiming its normal due to the high powered processors in their laptops which does make sense but is stupid that they expect customers to be happy with it. I would have thought they could found at better method to cool the laptop down and ventilate heat produced. I
You are right about the customization, you can't return so if the fan noise is going to bother you, keep well away. I managed to get a refund on my customised Vaio eventually but it wasn't easy.
But you said you want to add Ram, and in Sony's terms, you can add RAM later to a vaio without voiding the warranty.
So you could buy the stock Vaio and add ram later after testing it an seeing how you feel.
Thank you for replying ripat86.
Unfortunately my SA is already on order and I have passed the point on cancellation, so I have to wait and see if, when it arrives, my machine has same issues as discussed in this thread.
I was a bit lazy this time and didn’t do enough research before ordering as I have always had Vaio laptops and never had any issues (apart from the last one). If my machine has similar issues to what you have had, it will cost me time and effort and may be court fees to get my money back.
I have read about some kind of guide that Sony were publishing regarding this issue, have you seen it? I have tried searching for it with no success.
In all honesty, if you made a case with Sony directly and thats if you find it's making too much noise, you could probably get them to return the item for you as I doubt they will be completely unreasonable and bet you'll find something else on your Vaio which won't be 100% exactly as it should. Don't think you will need the courts as thal is alway a measure of last resort.
I have got a copy of this guide from Sony. I can forward it to you if you wish but I wouldn't bother found it did nothing and it affects performance.
My understanding is that they have made some subtle changes to the machine since all the fuss (nid you, I was told this by a Sony rep so it could be cods wallop).
I see that there are no more new posts about the fan/heating issue on any of the forums so either people have learnt to live with it, or the problem has been rectified.
Is it true that the so called guide says that users shouldn’t keep the lid open for prolonged times?
BTW, from your post, it appears you are thoroughly cheesed off with the Vaio SA.
I mentioned court because with my last laptop, I was getting no joy with their Egypt call centre, but once summons were issues, it was a different story. Consumers shouldnt be pushed from pillar to post if the product has a fault.