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Bravia avi - compare files that do/don't work KDL-32EX43B

Topic started on Jun 18, 2011 9:56 PM , last reply on Feb 24, 2012 3:08 PM

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ceallac
6 posts since
Nov 26, 2010

Bear with me. I am trying to understand why some avi's work and other's do not. I have two files, one works the other doesn't. But I cannot figure out why. Can someone:

  • Review the files and tell me what makes the good one work on the TV?
  • Offer assistance on how to identify a 'good' avi in future
  • Share how to convert a 'bad' avi into a 'good' one

 

I'll add the information on the two avi's below, I want to note that these are legitimate community avi's that I want to see, not illegal.

 

No advice will be overlooked - I really want to understand this!

 

Thanks


Tags: usb, problem, video, bravia, help, avi, movie
  • ceallac
    6 posts since
    Nov 26, 2010
    Written on Jun 18, 2011 9:57 PM

    The GOOD avi....

     

     

    General
    Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    File size                        : 550 MiB
    Duration                         : 59mn 15s
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 297 Kbps
    Writing application              : Some super fast AVI muxer
    Video
    ID                               : 0
    Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile                   : Advanced Simple@L5
    Format settings, BVOP            : 2
    Format settings, QPel            : No
    Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
    Codec ID                         : XVID
    Codec ID/Hint                    : XviD
    Duration                         : 59mn 15s
    Bit rate                         : 1 140 Kbps
    Width                            : 624 pixels
    Height                           : 352 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.216
    Stream size                      : 483 MiB (88%)
    Writing library                  : XviD 70
    Audio
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : MPEG Audio
    Format version                   : Version 1
    Format profile                   : Layer 3
    Codec ID                         : 55
    Codec ID/Hint                    : MP3
    Duration                         : 59mn 15s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 144 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
    Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Stream size                      : 61.2 MiB (11%)
    Alignment                        : Aligned on interleaves
    Interleave, duration             : 24 ms (0.58 video frame)
    Interleave, preload duration     : 13 ms

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  • ceallac
    6 posts since
    Nov 26, 2010
    Written on Jun 18, 2011 9:58 PM

    The BAD avi...

     

    Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    File size                        : 550 MiB
    Duration                         : 58mn 6s
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 324 Kbps
    Writing application              : transcode-1.0.4
    Video
    ID                               : 0
    Format                           : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile                   : Advanced Simple@L5
    Format settings, BVOP            : 2
    Format settings, QPel            : No
    Format settings, GMC             : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix          : Default (H.263)
    Codec ID                         : XVID
    Codec ID/Hint                    : XviD
    Duration                         : 58mn 6s
    Bit rate                         : 1 158 Kbps
    Width                            : 624 pixels
    Height                           : 352 pixels
    Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
    Frame rate                       : 23.976 fps
    Color space                      : YUV
    Chroma subsampling               : 4:2:0
    Bit depth                        : 8 bits
    Scan type                        : Progressive
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.220
    Stream size                      : 481 MiB (87%)
    Writing library                  : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)
    Audio
    ID                               : 1
    Format                           : MPEG Audio
    Format version                   : Version 1
    Format profile                   : Layer 3
    Codec ID                         : 55
    Codec ID/Hint                    : MP3
    Duration                         : 58mn 6s
    Bit rate mode                    : Variable
    Bit rate                         : 128 Kbps
    Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
    Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode                 : Lossy
    Stream size                      : 63.9 MiB (12%)
    Alignment                        : Aligned on interleaves
    Interleave, duration             : 24 ms (0.58 video frame)

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  • Gottsmik
    1 posts since
    Jul 22, 2011
    Written on Jul 22, 2011 2:43 PM

    Yes, I have exactly the same problem with my brand-new KDL-40EX720.

     

    One .avi actually played through to the end without as so much as a glitch. Of another the TV says it can't play it. And a third fails with the same error message after a minute or so.

     

    A work-around would be handy or a way to make sure it works correctly (I downloaded the last firmwire update and it is installed).


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  • Flowojo
    1 posts since
    Oct 31, 2011
    Written on Oct 31, 2011 8:24 AM

    I have the same issue too, and have been analysing video files and properties.

     

    I have found that the only difference between the AVIs that can play and those that can't is the writing application. All the ones that can't play have writing application: 'transcode-1. etc.'

     

    This is why your video did not work ceallac. Your bad video had:

    Writing application              : transcode-1.0.4

     

    I'm quite sure this is at least among the problems here. I've been using this to determine if an AVI will work on my TV or not, and so far I've been accurate.

     

    I don't understand why, or have the solution to it. But I hope that someone can find a solution to it now that this had been shed light upon.

     

    Here are some examples of those that can play and those that can't (used mediainfo):

     

     

    BadGood
    Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    File size                        : 702 MiB
    Duration                         : 1h 2mn
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 580 Kbps
    Writing application              : transcode-1.0.7    		Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    File size                        : 600 MiB
    Duration                         : 58mn 25s
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 436 Kbps
    Writing application              : VirtualDubMod 1.5.4.1 (build 2178/release)
    Writing library                  : VirtualDubMod build 2178/release

     

    Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    File size                        : 350 MiB
    Duration                         : 43mn 36s
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 122 Kbps
    Writing application              : transcode-1.1.5

    Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    File size                        : 698 MiB
    Duration                         : 1h 3mn
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 548 Kbps
    Writing application              : MEncoder 1.0rc2-4.2.1
    Writing library                  : MPlayer

    The following are the two versions of the same video:

     

    Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    File size                        : 701 MiB
    Duration                         : 1h 4mn
    Overall bit rate mode            : Variable
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 519 Kbps
    Writing application              : transcode-1.0.7

     

     

    Format                           : AVI
    Format/Info                      : Audio Video Interleave
    File size                        : 615 MiB
    Duration                         : 1h 4mn
    Overall bit rate                 : 1 335 Kbps
    Writing application              : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
    Writing library                  : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

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  • KDL-CX520
    309 posts since
    Sep 1, 2011
    Written on Oct 31, 2011 9:04 AM

    I have a bit information about

     

    The AVI is not a file, it is a container , that mean it can have many types of codec.

     

    Sony firmware has built-in specific codecs (not all included) , if the AVI is transcoded by different langauge then it will not play.

     

    I read in one Sony manual that the below AVI container is ONLY matching with the product

     

    DivX 3.11/4.x/5.1

    PCM / MPEG1 Layer1, 2 / MP3 /

    MPEG2 AAC (2ch) /

    MPEG4 AAC (2ch) /

    MPEG4 HE-AAC (2ch) /

    Dolby Digital (2ch) / WMA v8

    XviD

    MPEG1

    MPEG2 MP

    H.264 BP/MP/HP

    MPEG-4 SP/ASP


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  • mcquaim
    1 posts since
    Feb 23, 2012
    Written on Feb 23, 2012 2:53 PM

    Hi there,

     

    I am having similar problems to the original poster of this thread, some AVI's play and others dont.

     

    I see you mention that the avi is just a container and that avi's can have different codecs. On the previous posts the good and bad details for the two avi's both had the same codec details for video and audio so surely that codecs can't be this issue?

     

    I have converted a lot of my home movies using FreeMake but none of them play on my KDL32CX523. The codec I selected was XviD with MP3 audio.

     

    I have recordings from my FreeSat box that were converted by StaxRip and they play fine and they also specified XviD and MP3 as the codecs.

     

    I'm confused with this, anyone know what the issue with these files are?

     

    Thanks,

    mcquaim


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  • isiri12
    13 posts since
    Nov 10, 2011
    Written on Feb 24, 2012 7:02 AM

    I've been using this to determine if an AVI will work on my TV or not, and so far I've been accurate.http://www.depin.info/g.gif


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  • nayan007
    33 posts since
    Feb 17, 2012
    Written on Feb 24, 2012 7:55 AM

    Even I too have the same problem,some .avi files work and some don't work,I don't understand why this is happening


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  • sony_cust11
    sony_cust11
    95 posts since
    Feb 2, 2012
    Written on Feb 24, 2012 3:08 PM

    As said before, .avi is just the extension of the file. It depends on what sort of codec the file was made. You can use this program http://gspot.headbands.com/ to determine which codec the file has and if it is not in the list of supported files then it will not play. To find a solution to that will be to find a program that can convert from the codec that does not work to one of the supported formats.

    Hope this help.


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